IF YOU’VE EVER tried creating after which caring for a habitat-style backyard with native crops, nicely, let’s simply say it’s not precisely the identical factor as combining a gaggle of hostas with some astilbes and a few bleeding hearts.
Within the technique of writing a current “New York Occasions” backyard column about Wild Ones, the nationwide nonprofit membership group that promotes native crops, I used to be launched to the artist and panorama architect Preston Montague of Durham, N.C., who patiently schooled me in a few of the whys and how-tos of naturalistic backyard design and care that I needed to ask him to additionally share with you, together with some very artful makes use of for a string trimmer.
Preston (that’s somewhat late-season swath of his personal entrance yard, above) is a panorama architect and artist who teaches undergraduates at North Carolina A&T College in Greensboro. He contributed one of many 20-something regionally centered native plant panorama designs out there to obtain on the Wild Ones’ web site, plus a collection of movies on naturalistic design for Izel Native Crops nursery out there on YouTube—simply two examples of his numerous efforts, as he describes it, “to assist translate very difficult concepts of panorama ecology into an method that gardeners of all ability ranges can deploy.”
Learn alongside as you take heed to the Sept. 23, 2024 version of my public-radio present and podcast utilizing the participant under. You possibly can subscribe to all future editions on Apple Podcasts (iTunes) or Spotify (and browse my archive of podcasts right here).

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Margaret Roach: Hello, Preston. Good to speak to you once more.
Preston Montague: Hello, Margaret. Thanks for the invitation. I’m so excited to be right here. And hello-
Margaret: Hiya, everyone [laughter]. I really feel like I realized a lot from you. As I informed you once we have been talking for the Occasions interview, I can inform that you just’re a instructor. You could have a pure aptitude. So good for you.
Preston: Oh, what a praise. Thanks very a lot. That’s hard-earned.
Margaret: [Laughter.] Nicely, thanks. So I stated within the introduction somewhat bit in regards to the backstory of how we acquired acquainted. I used to be doing this “New York Occasions” story in regards to the nonprofit native plant membership group referred to as Wild Ones, with chapters everywhere in the nation. And your title got here up as one of many designers who has contributed one of many native backyard designs for his or her very fashionable library of free downloadable backyard plans. Every of them is regionally acceptable for a selected ecoregion across the nation. You contributed a kind of [below], and that’s how we acquired launched.
Within the technique of doing our interview, as I stated within the introduction as nicely, you simply turned me on to quite a lot of pondering that simply made gentle bulbs go off for me. So I needed to only … You stated to me in our interview for the Occasions, you stated one thing like “native crops assembled in response to native neighborhood buildings and densities might be extra difficult. They could be a little hairier.” I really like that. I can’t cease fascinated by that. In order that they’re furry, huh? [Laughter.]
Preston: Yeah, it’s considered one of these phrases I assist to … that I believe folks decide up on and might visualize. Actually what I’m speaking about there, actually what I’m attempting to encourage folks to do is to, I don’t know, get accustomed to those types of plant assemblies or these types of gardens being somewhat grassier than they might initially design or hope for.
And I’m noticing, as I start to review folks’s reactions and preferences for these types of extra pure, ecologically knowledgeable, ecosystem-rich gardens, that there are, I don’t know, cues that you just don’t care embedded all through them. What I’ve observed is that grasses, notably sure varieties of inflorescences, or the grass seed and flower heads, set off responses.
What I’m noticing, for instance, is that in a plant meeting, in case you have, let’s say, for this local weather, 60 p.c grasses, 40 p.c flowering crops I name forbs, I’ve observed that that ratio tends to outlive somewhat bit longer than, say, 60 p.c forbs, 40 p.c grasses.
I believe that’s particularly the place I apply right here within the Piedmont of North Carolina, I imply, don’t neglect, we’ve got three summers, and in August, it’s extraordinarily moist, however all of the moisture is the air, which is simply robust on everyone. I believe what I’m noticing is that these plant assemblies simply get grassier than flowery-er. These are actually crude phrases that I exploit with the general public and I believe it’s simply a part of my expertise educating. I’m not embarrassed to make use of these fanciful and generally made-up phrases in the event that they get the purpose throughout. I hesitate to even use the phrase forb, however I don’t know; on this case, it’s useful.
Margaret: Yeah, but it surely’s the phrase. The factor is you’re telling me, as somebody who’s tried a few of this myself and I assumed, “Uh-oh. I failed. I’ve finished one thing incorrect,” or no matter, and also you’re telling me, “Hey, it would get somewhat furry.” [Laughter.] It’s totally different. It’s not … And I believe, once more, once we did The Occasions story, you stated one thing prefer it’s not such as you put three of this right here and 5 of that there and one massive factor right here and finished; that’s the design. It’s not like that. These are extra dynamic communities of crops, aren’t they?
Preston: Certainly. I believe what is occurring is that we’re recognizing that a lot of design occurs after planting, that upkeep is a design course of. It could be the most important, most necessary a part of the design course of. I imply you wish to increase this lovely planting upright, and so that you wish to have nice website prep, hygiene; you wish to assemble crops in a means that you just really feel like goes to elicit the response you need. You need make plant choices which might be sustainable and sturdy within the local weather you’re planting in.
However you might have a decade or extra of that planting to handle, and that’s the place I believe the majority of design is. I believe this was one factor that I grew to become dissatisfied in a traditional design apply, in that all the emphasis gave the impression to be getting you to Day 1. However a lot of the issue with sustaining that planting was Days 2 via 2002.
Margaret: Proper. [Laughter.]
Preston: I believe it suggests a radical reorganization of the best way that we method design professionally. Luckily, sadly, there’s not likely quite a lot of accountability for a way these landscapes carry out afterwards. It’s on the mercy of the upkeep crew. Designers might be not held accountable in a means that I believe is perhaps in a extra refined, civilized scenario, at the very least from the plan’s perspective. However designers have a duty for a way their design unfolds over time.
Margaret: Yeah, and it looks like if we’re going to be the “upkeep particular person” in our own residence panorama or work with somebody who’s, we’ve acquired to get that data. And so, I believe I hinted at it within the introduction to the present, I stated one thing about your string trimmer ways [laughter].
Preston: Sure.
Margaret: I don’t also have a string trimmer, however boy, oh boy, do I would like one? It’s on my Christmas listing proper now, since you talked to me about versus attempting to eradicate sure, and I’m going to only put in quotes, “weeds,” like I believe you have been speaking about crabgrass, nutsedge, issues like that, that are-
Preston: Uninvited friends.
Margaret: Yeah, uninvited friends; good. That you’ve a distinct tactic for attempting to subdue them somewhat bit and make them behave nicely sufficient to let the design come via. You’re not pulling weeds out of the soil and leaving holes that different weeds are going to germinate in. You had an entire totally different sort of method that actually appealed to me.
Additionally, simply by way of shaping the teams of crops, you had an entire method, and perhaps you need to inform us about that. You don’t consider every particular person plant as a lot because the teams of crops, I believe, in a design.
Preston: Yeah. I like to make use of this phrase “vegetative physique.” There’s a purpose for that. I believe that individuals can unintentionally … I’m responsible myself, being too treasured over that Schizachyrium and that Rudbeckia and that Echinacea. These crops can behave and … They’ll have very ephemeral conduct, in fact, relying on the species. [Above, a buffer area between Preston’s yard and a a neighbor’s, alive with sumac, Rudbeckia and more.]
And so, serving to folks simply not take particular person species or particular person crops, so regard them as treasured, and actually take into consideration this plant mass. However I believe it takes a few of the stress off of getting every bit of nutsedge, crabgrass, and Bermuda grass they discover out of the system. Moreover, I’m discovering that utilizing instruments like a string trimmer, which I found was my favourite instrument for, let’s say, these types of herbaceous plantings beneath an acre, that strolling via and flossing, such as you may floss your enamel, or tweezing like eyebrows, that you just get in there and also you angle the string trimmer in a sure option to zap any form of uninvited friends.
In case you simply, over time, zap the crops you don’t need and depart the crops you do need alone, these crops you do need are likely to fill in that hole. I by no means eliminate crabgrass, Bermuda grass, nutsedge, and these different acquainted interlopers, however I can suppress their inhabitants and hold their inhabitants so careworn that they continue to be sort of in stasis or they continue to be sort of simply locked in at a floor cowl stage. I’m discovering for issues like crabgrass, for instance, if I simply stop it from going to seed, its inhabitants disappears generally completely.
This was only a discovery I made after actually wrestling too onerous with weeds on a few, let’s say, pocket-scale grassland initiatives, the place I used to be simply pulling weeds and simply by no means getting on prime of the matter. After I had a small city grassland to maintain, really particularly the one within the Izel movies [below], and if I simply used the string trimmer, I used to be in a position to, inside a season, fully get forward of what turned out to be a very rambunctious Bermuda grass and crabgrass inhabitants.
Margaret: Yeah. No, I imply the thought of giving the specified crops somewhat extra respiratory room, so to talk, I really like that, and that you just’re not opening up… as a result of I’ve a meadow above my home. It’s outdated. I’ve been doing it for a very long time. It’s in its umpteenth stage of succession now [laughter], and we’re getting some woody issues and no matter. However I made … And I shouldn’t say mistake as a result of that feels like I’m a foul woman. However earlier on, I used to be pulling issues and I used to be discovering that by doing so, as anytime we pull weeds and open up the soil, extra weed seeds have been germinating from down under, and there have been loads of them within the seed mattress.
So I used to be really making extra alternatives for bother than I used to be fixing. And so, you’re speaking about this flossing, the zapping, and I’m like, wow, O.Ok., that doesn’t open up these alternatives for germination of weed seeds, which is nice.
Preston: Sure, it was a fortunate discovery as a result of I used to be, in any other case, on the time struggling to speak to purchasers and to different folks actually an efficient administration technique. I had to return and say, “Nicely, wait a minute, Preston.” You could have been telling purchasers and telling folks that now that we actually have begun to know the significance of native crops, the actual native crops which might be greatest for our particular person areas, why don’t we now start to broaden this and begin native construction and native change?
Native construction, in fact, is organizing your specific herbaceous planting to replicate what you’re seeing in your local weather. The way in which I’ll sort out this in Flagstaff can be totally different than I’d sort out it in Richmond. And so, the best way I’d construction crops is in another way.
Additionally, I encourage folks to be the hurricane, be the lightning strike, be the goat, be the change you wish to see in your backyard. I noticed that pulling weeds doesn’t actually have a pure analog.
Margaret: No.
Preston: In actual fact, looking is what I needed to simulate.
Margaret: See, that’s such a very good thought. I don’t know why I’ve by no means considered that. You’re completely proper. The analog is an animal can be munching to the bottom plant A and never plant B and so forth, and plant B would have a bonus, subsequently. Yeah, and even hearth and even then man-made mowing, similar factor. We’re not pulling them. We’re not yanking them out of the bottom.
So you’ve got one other fascinating use in your string trimmer that I’ve by no means used one for, which is that you just make … In your designs, you need some construction, some hedging, as an illustration. It’s possible you’ll take some native shrubs, rigorously chosen ones, and you may very well additionally use your string trimmer to form these into form of hedges. What are some examples of that and why do you select sure shrubs for that?
Preston: Oh, nicely, what can I say? String trimming might be addictive. It’s so pleasurable. It’s so satisfying.
Margaret: [Laughter.] Uh-oh.
Preston: I see why mowing is so standard. However it’s simply … Mainly in a panorama that I used to be serving to a consumer handle, I used to be with the string trimmer already… That they had simply bought principally about half an acre. That they had a half-acre challenge and a funds that solely allowed … We labored solely from seed with a few areas that we have been ready so as to add saplings and tubelings of sure shrubs. We have been utilizing these shrubs as a option to catch soccer balls and different issues that have been flying into the neighbor’s yard [laughter]. Over time …
By the best way, that is … I used to be utilizing alder, Alnus serrulata. I used to be utilizing a few viburnums, I believe nudum and prunifolium I consider, in addition to silky dogwood, Cornus amomum, and Ilex glabra, the inkberry.
Margaret: Oh yeah.
Preston: I’ve chosen these as a result of it gave me a spread of habits and evergreen and deciduous and floral shows, deer resistance in some circumstances. They have been all rising collectively themselves into one other vegetative mass. And so, I’m pursuing this with shrubs now as nicely.
However I simply turned the string trimmer on them to hedge them up and was like, oh, nicely, wait a minute. If you’ll be able to flip the string trimmer on these shrubs which might be versatile, “plastic,” with brief internodes, that they are often sculpted really actually fairly deftly with a string trimmer. It wasn’t a situation the place I needed to get in there and expertly prune them to imitate their pure form. I might be as bizarre and synthetic with them as I needed them as a result of what I needed was a hedge. I needed you to not likely inform the place the Ilex glabra or the Viburnum prunifolium … Or the place the inkberry began and the place the Viburnum ended.
Margaret: I consider that as a bio-hedge. That’s what I used to name that years in the past once I first began studying about native crops.
Preston: I like it.
Margaret: A bio-hedge is like mixing issues collectively and turning them into this neighborhood of generally largely woody and generally there’s vines via it and so forth. Yeah, a bio-hedge. However sure. So you’ll select … I’m inferring from a few of the crops you talked about, just like the viburnums and the Ilex glabra, and in addition from once we talked earlier than for the Occasions story, you’re selecting shrubs that may reply nicely to this trimming as a result of they’ve the brief internodes, the area between the place the leaf nodes are. Is that it? Is that the standards for why you’re choosing-
Preston: Oh, I’m now … Initially, it was simply what was out there.
Margaret: Oh, I see.
Preston: On the time, the one availability I had is a nursery me referred to as Mellow Marsh Farm, who provides merchandise for the DOT and different very large-scale planting initiatives. I assumed on the time, can I adapt this catalog to a residential-scale grassland, and realized, oh, that is the one supply I’ve proper now for this work.
And so, I used to be utilizing their seed merchandise, their plugs. In addition they provided bushes as saplings and tubelings, these smaller sizes that actually leap to life once they’re positioned in the best situations, that they have been initially offered for mass, mass planting initiatives by the DOT.
Margaret: Proper.
Preston: And so, initially, I simply lucked out.
Margaret: O.Ok. All proper. However these are issues that do reply nicely to being trimmed this manner.
Preston: Proper. There’s additionally perhaps some simply aesthetic, an aesthetic swap that some folks might must have with the thought of, I really like this phrase, bio-hedges.
Margaret: I’ll license it to you if you’d like. I can license that to you.
Preston: [Laughter.] We’ll discuss that after.
Margaret: Simply kidding, simply kidding, simply kidding. So when you find yourself getting began with a design and also you’ve acquired it conceived and it’s planting time, you go heavy, proper? You’re not simply placing somewhat little bit of this and somewhat little bit of that. You’re combining seeds and plugs, little seedlings, so to talk, younger crops. You’re working with a heavy hand when planting, sure?
Preston: Sure. Ideally … I exploit the phrase supersaturate. What I’m simply attempting to do just isn’t give weeds or these uninvited friends a combating likelihood. It relies on the challenge. It relies on the funds.
However in a great situation for creating the form of backyard that you just see I’ve created for Wild Ones, I’d like for the beds to incorporate a seed foundation, which might be centered on crops that I’d use as groundcover and perhaps a few surprises from this or that native annual or forb. However then actually use plugs to have quite a lot of design management and introduce species that maybe isn’t within the seed combine, or maybe species which might be … or keystone species that will not be within the combine, in order that I’m not solely having some design management aesthetically, however I’ve some design management functionally, notably with offering sources to pollinating bugs and songbirds.
The plugs additionally enable me to take a look at the foundation physiology and be sure that I’m additionally attempting to create range under floor and never simply above. You’ll discover by pulling plugs out of their container, that there’s a very fairly a staggering vary of rooting methods that crops have.
Margaret: Sure.
Preston: You could have massive fleshy roots in situations which may be actually dry. You could have very, very superb roots which might be very delicate and will trigger that plant to not persist in a heavy clay system; these types of issues.
And so, that is for me new work. I don’t even know the way I visualize it, however more and more I’m attempting to create range under floor, as a result of I think {that a} range under floor is extra steady and extra attentive to stress than a monoculture. So I’m simply making use of all of these issues that I’m studying in regards to the deficits that monocultures deliver to planting above floor and simply replicating these under as nicely I can till I work out how I measure and even report it.
Margaret: Yeah. You’re reminding me of the historic photos that I bear in mind seeing at College of Wisconsin-Madison, once they did their Curtis Prairie restoration and all of the analysis that went into that. That they had these underground … Drawings of what was underground, the foundation mass of the prairie neighborhood. It was like, whoa, discuss totally different root buildings of various sorts of crops serving not simply the higher a part of the crops, however the underground half having an entire neighborhood construction, too. It was wonderful, actually wonderful.
So I simply wish to have you ever put in a phrase for various groundcover decisions, as a result of I do know that you just’re in all probability within the land of, what, lilyturf, Liriope, and what’s it? Mondo grass, Ophiopogon, and from stem to stern in quite a lot of yards, I wager [laughter].
Preston: Nook to nook.
Margaret: Any ideas for these of us seeking to having any success with any floor cowl decisions?
Preston: Yeah. I additionally am all for offering folks with the garden various that I get so many requests about. By the best way, I discover that that is very particular to a local weather. Right here within the Southeast, or at the very least right here within the Piedmont of North Carolina, I don’t suppose that crops stay brief and compact. It’s too sizzling, it’s too humid. I believe the crops must breathe some.
And so, I’ve acquired a really brief listing of issues, like I discover yarrow, Achillea, some sedges [above, in one of Preston’s designs], however stoloniferous crops which might be attentive to the string trimmer and really activate and stay low even when they don’t flower. For me right here in North Carolina, the listing is extraordinarily brief. And so, I actually haven’t knocked out the dynamite garden alternative.
However I’d search for herbaceous crops which might be stoloniferous, unfold by stolons. Then there are a handful of sedges that I believe reply favorably to foot visitors and with being hit by the string trimmer as nicely. However within the mountains of North Carolina, the listing will get longer, and on the coast of North Carolina, the listing will get longer.
Margaret: Proper, as a result of the Piedmont consists of each these areas, sure?
Preston: Proper. The problem right here is that we’ve got the clay that shortens the listing that may in any other case be longer on the coast with sandier soil and crops tailored to dwelling a life-style near the bottom. In western North Carolina, it’s possible you’ll stumble upon clay, but it surely’s greater than doubtless on a slope and well-drained, but it surely has extra constant moisture and cooler evenings.
Margaret: I see. I see.
Preston: And so, that’s why the listing expands there, whereas it’s actually brief right here. Actually, I heard somebody say that in case you can backyard within the Piedmont of North Carolina, you’ll be able to backyard anyplace [laughter]. I anticipate that is perhaps true.
Margaret: Oh my. Nicely, Preston Montague, I really like speaking to you. The Izel movies that you just’ve finished, they’re a lot enjoyable, sort of about strolling within the wilderness searching for inspiration in a few of them, after which distilling that into issues we will take house and use in our personal designs. So very fulfilling. However I’m simply so glad to talk to you once more. Thanks a lot for making time as we speak.
Preston: Thanks, Margaret. What a deal with it’s been. I respect it.
(All photographs from Preston Montague, used with permission.)
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